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Ardy Hard Diary
Me when I get a black mask drop
So much different than his kind NPC ><
I made a little OSRS Gif.
Nintendo really knows how to get into my wallet.
Mathematically Optimal Order to Train Melee Combat
700 feet on a tower and I still need my fix
Got a Tebow drop!
I need to recharge my staff!
lmao just shredded this nub chicken with my dclaws, sit.
Can we keep the long hair while wearing helmets plz?
One Level Per Episode Ironman - Episode 27 (The Druids)
Bot farms are making BILLIONS because it is statistically impossible to PK Lv. 3 bots - Story included
Everyday we stray further...
She thicc tho
Loot from 60 hours of casting Superglass Make
I get it Kraken, you hate me
Pkers waiting to get my spade.
The pain
Got 99 slay on Olm task on the Zerker!
Loot from 3 hours of pking at black salamanders
Yes.
Selling Vorkis pm me
Give us free membership until the Coronavirus is gone so we stay indoors even more.

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Ardy Hard Diary

Posted: 08 Mar 2020 08:25 AM PDT

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Me when I get a black mask drop

Posted: 08 Mar 2020 07:00 AM PDT

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So much different than his kind NPC ><

Posted: 08 Mar 2020 09:23 AM PDT

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I made a little OSRS Gif.

Posted: 07 Mar 2020 03:12 PM PST

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Nintendo really knows how to get into my wallet.

Posted: 08 Mar 2020 08:32 AM PDT

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Mathematically Optimal Order to Train Melee Combat

Posted: 08 Mar 2020 06:54 AM PDT

I'm following up on a previous post about using math to optimize combat related things. This application is: What order should I train attack/strength to get to max as fast as possible.

Let's say you start at (attack=60, strength=60), and your goal is (99, 99). The next thing you can do is either train to (61, 60) or (60, 61). Repeatedly asking that question all the way to (99, 99) gives this tree-like graph:

Each chain from top to bottom is a possible way to max

Our goal is to find the shortest path from the top to the bottom. Each edge has an associated training time. The previous post talked about modeling xp rates, and the equation for xp per level is known, so we have both of these. Dividing the two gives us how much time it takes to move between any adjacent nodes. This problem be easily be solved exactly with the "Dijkstra Algorithm". The output is the figure below, which shows the optimal training scheme for a dscim fighting in NMZ (more details at end).

Starting from the left, train attack if green, or strength if red, until you get the end.

The time with potions is 326.5h. Below is a comparison to other training schemes.

Strategy	Total Time (h)	Additional Time (h)	Percent Improvement
Inverted (red->green, green->red)	356.6	30.1	8.4
Strength to 99 then attack to 99	328.3	1.8	0.5
Attack to 99 then strength to 99	393.4	66.9	17

The optimal strategy has a 0.5 Percent improvement over training 99 strength first - which isn't huge, but it's also free AND we didn't know how 99str->99att (the leftmost chain) performed before this anyway. We can also look at how much time it takes to level at each step (when using potions):

Time to level up as you go through the optimal training scheme.

The splitting of the curve is the difference between training attack (bottom) and strength (top). Strength is almost always a greater level, which is why it takes longer to level, earlier on. This is really interesting since it shows the battle between the low improvement from training attack, vs the higher cost to level up strength (due to it being a higher level)!

Extra Details: Equipment: Dragon scim, full dh, dboots, barrows gloves, d def, b ring (i), fury, fire cape. Super combat potions are used when the attack falls below a boost of 5. Opponents (Hard): draynor, roald, Me, tree spirit, khzard warlord. Training on easy opponents is about 30h slower. The python package is called "osrsmath", the github is OSRS-Combat. Feel free to look it up.

TLDR; Developed math/code to determine the fastest way to train combat.

EDIT: Here are More Training Schemes.

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700 feet on a tower and I still need my fix

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Got a Tebow drop!

Posted: 08 Mar 2020 10:19 AM PDT

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I need to recharge my staff!

Posted: 08 Mar 2020 12:59 AM PST

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lmao just shredded this nub chicken with my dclaws, sit.

Posted: 07 Mar 2020 03:02 PM PST

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Can we keep the long hair while wearing helmets plz?

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One Level Per Episode Ironman - Episode 27 (The Druids)

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Bot farms are making BILLIONS because it is statistically impossible to PK Lv. 3 bots - Story included

Posted: 07 Mar 2020 10:09 PM PST

TL;DR at the bottom if you don't want to read the story!

This story starts in the wilderness of world 308. I was minding my own business and trying to get in some classic F2P PKing when all of the sudden, I saw a group of Lv. 3 rats b-line it straight to a pile of swordfish. Their grimy hands tore at the fish as they scrambled to get scraps from the fallen warrior's body who had died in glorious F2P battle. Upon seeing this disgusting scramble for scraps, I decided that it was my duty to create a pest control account to deal with the vermin. And so with a spare email I created ISmokeLvl3s who is the first of the pest control line. Armed with some spare runes, a staff of earth, and some robes my warrior ran into battle. The fights were swift and deadly. The rats, consumed with sheer terror scrambled to run from ISmokeLvl3s' strikes, dragging with them their swordfish and adamant arrows. For a moment the wilderness of world 308 was free of the vile animals, and the sun shined on our coifs and rune helmets. Unfortunately, the moment of joy was quickly put to an end as three rats scurried back onto the battlefield. Their bloodshot eyes scoured the ground for more scraps as ISmokeLvl3s once again lifted his staff to put the vile beasts to rest. However, this time ISmokeLvl3s was not able to cast his spell. Why? Because ISmokeLvl3s did his job too well, and he had leveled his magic too high. No longer was ISmokeLvl3s able to cast spells to save world 308, now the rats once again had free reign over the battlefield.

BUT not all hope was lost. I remembered that Ironmen did not gain xp from PKing, and set out to create another pest control account. This account would be the final reckoning for the rats. And so in this moment of darkness, L3CheekClapr was created. L3CheekClapr was the chosen one. An ironman dedicated not to riches but to glorious battle, and he was perfect. After getting the supplies manually, L3CheekClapr was ready to finally put an end to the plague of Lv 3 rats. With earth strike as his weapon, he jumped across the wilderness border and rushed out with fire in his eyes. But like ISmokeLvl3s, L3CheekClapr flew too high. The first spell hit perfectly but the moment was cut short by the realization that even though the regular magic and health xp was canceled, there was still a remaining 6 xp gained from casting the spell. Our warrior was defeated not by any man or beast, but by the cold hands of the combat level. Only four rats were slain by L3CheekClapr, before he too was forced out of combat. The earth staff slowly slipped out of his hand as he fell to his knees. L3CheekClapr looked up at the sky in defeat and finally fell face down on the battlefield. Quickly a frenzy surrounded his cold body and the rats made quick work of his remaining beef and runes. The rats still thrive to this day.

TL;DR You can't kill Lv 3 bots because you level too quickly. Even as an Ironman you still gain magic xp from PKing in the wilderness. Thus an account can only kill about 2-3 bots before being forced out of the combat bracket for lv 2 wilderness.

Oh and Magic is the only viable combat method that can actually kill these bots as the dps for range and combat is too low in the Lv 3-7 cb bracket.